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edited April 2008 in General
This is a conversation between me and a friend

her: Are you drinking Alize??? lol

me: yeah you got a problem with that lol... is it not manly enough for you....

her: I don't believe genderizing types of alcohol is a proficient method of differentiating between "manly" and "non-manly" labels and/or behaviours. What has the world come to?

anyone have a smart and succinct response?

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  • edited March 2008
    IM DRUNK WOO!!!

    haha

    (I'm an idiot and have no decent input)
  • edited March 2008
    I think she is correct. Manly and non-manly can't be determined by what you drink.
  • edited March 2008
    "Can you say that again in english"
  • edited April 2008
    Fucking postmodernists and their labels :angry:

    It's not so much of a method as it is an indicator or a sign. If you can reasonably establish that it is overwhelmingly males who drink Alize, then you can say that there's a fairly significant correlation between the kind of beverage (or brand or whatever) one drinks and one's gender.

    For example, whenever I think of a particular beer, I get an image of its most likely drinker:

    Molson Canadian -- an unshaven and ungroomed dude who likes hockey;
    Stella -- a more refined individual who is perhaps educated and for whom drinking beer is more of an interest as opposed to a social-bonding experience;
    etc.

    It's not a certainty (they're only examples :embarassed:), but there's enough probability there for me to make reasonable judgements about who drinks what.

    It's not as if the drinks automatically assign you to particular gender roles (i.e. of course it's not a method); rather it's that the genders and sub-categories within the genders align themselves with particular beverages.

    You said males in your response, so all you have to do is prove that it's mostly males that drink Alize and perhaps that males tend to prefer Alize over other cognacs. Go for probability here (e.g. many male drink Alize) rather than certainty (e.g. all males drink Alize).
  • edited April 2008
    Ok, in the lab where I am currently in, of the eight guys near me none of them drink alize. It is definitely a woman's drink and I agree with the girl as do the guys near me.
  • edited April 2008
    sweet drinks make me hurl
    i remember my friend was making these drinks, super sweet, i almost puked and i was hardly buzzed, lol
  • edited April 2008
    JayDub;25711 said:
    Ok, in the lab where I am currently in, of the eight guys near me none of them drink alize. It is definitely a woman's drink and I agree with the girl as do the guys near me.
    You're kind of missing the point. Maybe Kevin M. was being sarcastic in his post by saying "manly enough" and addressing the fact that it probably is a woman's drink.

    So instead of establishing that it's a man's drink, all you have to establish is that it's a woman's drink, which is just as easy. The point is that though a drink does not determine one's gender, it is usually indicative of one's gender and other things such as social class, occupation, etc (i.e. there are fairly good correlations). It is not the drinks that determine gender, it is the genders and subdivisions within the genders that determine drinks.

    You've already kind of established that it's not a man's drink, so Kevin pretty much has his work cut out for him :wink:
  • edited April 2008
    Triple;25712 said:
    sweet drinks make me hurl
    i remember my friend was making these drinks, super sweet, i almost puked and i was hardly buzzed, lol
    Jager bomb!
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    edited April 2008
    Insatiable;25717 said:
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    jagerbombs!
  • edited April 2008
    Kevin M.;25677 said:
    This is a conversation between me and a friend

    her: Are you drinking Alize??? lol

    me: yeah you got a problem with that lol... is it not manly enough for you....

    her: I don't believe genderizing types of alcohol is a proficient method of differentiating between "manly" and "non-manly" labels and/or behaviours. What has the world come to?

    anyone have a smart and succinct response?
    in a situation where you're stuck with a response.. you can always toss it back to the person with a question.. so in this case.. ask if she has a proficient method in mind.. =) not to bash sociology in general.. but i would categorize that statement as useless if she can't answer the question... so she made a point abt manly vs. non-manly drinks.. what of it? can she offer a better alternative as opposed to idlely speculating?

    i don't know if you would consider leaving someone speechless as a smart and succinct response.. but i'm quite confident that this is a difficult question to answer..
  • edited April 2008
    Alize not a manly drink? wow no one listens to tupac here?! heck its even on wikipedia... hahaha
    the product began to appear in rap videos. In particular, the internationally-famous rap legend Tupac Shakur, came out with his video hit called "Thug Passion", and rapped about Alizé
    to be honest i do think alize is a chick drink tho lol
  • edited April 2008
    hahaha thanks for the replies guys...it is a chick drink but i'm not much of a beer drinker so i usually stick to that. she also used the word proficiient in the wrong context maybe i should burn her about that haha
  • edited April 2008
    Ive tried alize.... its a girls drink, no doubt about it.
    Just avoid drinking it. Drinking alize at a party is like watching a football game with regular beer-drinking guys, and ur sitting there with a cooler in your hand. haha.
    If u wud rather drink something sweet there are a lot of alternatives.
  • edited April 2008
    id rather make out with a guy that just drank malibu than a guy who just drank beer, blech
  • edited April 2008
    ^ aye aye to that..
  • edited April 2008
    also -- beer belly no no no no no

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