the major point here is that girls should control themselves from having sex before marriage.
From the point of religion, it is a sin to have sex before marriage. So, why would you do that and end up inflicting yourself with side effects that abortion might cause or take the burden of bringing up an 'illegitimate baby'?
Let us be realistic: encourage early marriage and STOP advocating for abortion.
In your first sentence you basically touch the biggest point...it's a girls decision to do what she wants with her body. As well there is a double standard, because there are two people involved in the baby making process.
And to be realistic, we should not be encouraging early marriage, but encouraging birth control, which the catholic / christian church is very opposed to. I'm not pro abortion, I'm pro choice.
"Marriage, the perfect way to ruin your own life, and someone elses while you're at it."
I'm confused :confused:, did you not read earlier posts addressed to you, but you read a later post? If you want to address earlier points, you know I'd love to elaborate for you.
EDIT: Spoiler, I even allude to in my post why I think it's highly inappropriate, read carefully.
"Marriage, the perfect way to ruin your own life, and someone elses while you're at it."
So, it seems you prefer sleeping with any man whom you think might quench you from your 'sex thirsty' instead of keeping yourself committed to one man.
I see a lot of cultural and regional varieties when it comes to this issue, Randomuser, I gonna take you to Asia where you will enjoy good sex, reliable marriage for the rest of your life, lol!
So, it seems you prefer sleeping with any man whom you think might quench you from your 'sex thirsty' instead of keeping yourself committed to one man.
I see a lot of cultural and regional varieties when it comes to this issue, Randomuser, I gonna take you to Asia where you will enjoy good sex, reliable marriage for the rest of your life, lol!
I wouldn't go that far, you don't need to be married to someone to have relations or have a healthy relationship...a lot of the time once you get married is when things change.
As Nicole mentioned earlier, people in general should be a bit smarter to USE CONTRACEPTIVES. On the other hand, the church actively advocates that people not use them.
From the point of religion, it is a sin to have sex before marriage.
Not everyone is religious.
Hope_2016 said:
Let us be realistic: encourage early marriage and STOP advocating for abortion.
Marriage has a failure rate around 50%. The failure rate is much higher in couples who got married very young (after you've had a few relationships, the reason why should be obvious.) Also, no one is advocating abortion. Many people are advocating having a choice.
Hope_2016;45113 said:
So, it seems you prefer sleeping with any man whom you think might quench you from your 'sex thirsty' instead of keeping yourself committed to one man.
You're right. Getting married instead because you're horny makes way more sense.
Btw to keep this topical and current, apparently students for life, some student group had made a make-shift burial ground of dead babies with a cross on campus, which I think is highly inappropriate.
Oh god, when I saw that in the Peak my head visited the desk and I just groaned.
After I read that in the peak I actually felt like going to the SFSS and asking for my 5 or whatever dollars back if my money is going to support that.
After I read that in the peak I actually felt like going to the SFSS and asking for my 5 or whatever dollars back if my money is going to support that.
You know you were almost fun to debate with, but now you just abandon your arguments and try to start new fights without any closure when you're backed against a wall.
Go back to page six and respond to our points and I'll gladly answer you :teeth:.
Btw to keep this topical and current, apparently students for life, some student group had made a make-shift burial ground of dead babies with a cross on campus, which I think is highly inappropriate.
And then....
randomuser;45137 said:
After I read that in the peak I actually felt like going to the SFSS and asking for my 5 or whatever dollars back if my money is going to support that.
you know.. if everyone who wants children can think about this alternative before making one (excluding mindless sex) there would be less neglected/abused children and less orphans.. so kudos to you for bringing this up.. =)
personally.. i'm still undecided if i want kids.. but i'm sure there will come a time where i would have to give this some serious thought and one of the first places i would think about is orphanages.. there's just too many people turning their backs on their responsibilities and there needs to be people willing to take them on because these responsibilities are very much real..
Hope_2016;45101 said:
Generally, whether you are for abortion or not, the major point here is that girls should control themselves from having sex before marriage.
wait wha wha wha? just because females are the gender that bears a child.. we need to control ourselves? :confused: if you want to go down that direction it better be a 2 way road...
Hope_2016;45101 said:
From the point of religion, it is a sin to have sex before marriage. So, why would you do that and end up inflicting yourself with side effects that abortion might cause or take the burden of bringing up an 'illegitimate baby'?
because life is very much realistic and practical.. religion isn't like that.. the baby itself is very much physical and real.. that illegitimate baby could suffer a neglectful possibly traumatic childhood that will effect him/her for life if the parents aren't ready to take care of a child.. so why ruin someone's life like that when you have a choice or that you know it's not within your capabilities to take care of child...
Hope_2016;45101 said:
Let us be realistic: encourage early marriage and STOP advocating for abortion.
no.. you be realistic, early marriages will NOT stop people from getting abortions..
NukeChem;45155 said:
For every potential Einstein that got aborted there was also a equal probability of a potential Adolf Hitler.
if you want me to reply to something, quote it instead of saying "blah blah blah page X" you noob
quote or GTFO
My apologies that you have troubles reading, it's a sensitive issue I know.
Several occasions I have asked you to go back to a certain page or read a certain comment, several. In fact, more than one person other than myself addressed you and you did not respond.
I'm truely sorry my dear that you are a lazy sod and need to be quoted, because a few of us actually did quote you and you chose not to respond anyway from our original posts. In fact siuying took five quotes of your posts and you did not response.
Your response to our posts was "que" if you do not recall, you seem to have selective memory in addition to your deteriorating reading and logic skills...early on-set alzheimers...? :omg:
Several occasions I have asked you to go back to a certain page or read a certain comment, several. In fact, more than one person other than myself addressed you and you did not respond.
I always get excited when there is a new post but it seems like the same things have been said for the last 50+ posts...
"Play along"? I just want you to carry on with your side of the debate, until you decided to start ignoring our posts from the moment you immaturely said "que". You should say whatever you think is logically right in your head. If you want to share your ideas then defend them. I don't want you to say anything contrived.
It just looks like you ran out of defences and decided to give up and be argumentative with me instead, to draw attention away from the fact you had not responded to any points I, or anyone else raised.
I won't sit around arguing with you about stupid little things, if you want to carry on from where we left off, feel free, otherwise stop trying to pick fights over non-related issues.
I always get excited when there is a new post but it seems like the same things have been said for the last 50+ posts...
IVT: I don't understand.
Randomuser: Read the last x pages.
And it just goes over and over again. :P
I think read the last x pages is a better response in a debate than I don't understand :teeth:. In every non DE class I take I look forward to being argumentative and critical with other students. This semester I even have a class with a structured debate.
I think magnificent_bastard solved his I dont understand question as well:
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And to be realistic, we should not be encouraging early marriage, but encouraging birth control, which the catholic / christian church is very opposed to. I'm not pro abortion, I'm pro choice.
"Marriage, the perfect way to ruin your own life, and someone elses while you're at it."
EDIT: Spoiler, I even allude to in my post why I think it's highly inappropriate, read carefully.
I see a lot of cultural and regional varieties when it comes to this issue, Randomuser, I gonna take you to Asia where you will enjoy good sex, reliable marriage for the rest of your life, lol!
As Nicole mentioned earlier, people in general should be a bit smarter to USE CONTRACEPTIVES. On the other hand, the church actively advocates that people not use them.
Phil
Not all Asians have small dicks. Let us ask her whether she prefers penis size or the quality in it.
Go back to page six and respond to our points and I'll gladly answer you :teeth:. We need triples advice on this one.
Am just kidding. :)
For every potential Einstein that got aborted there was also a equal probability of a potential Adolf Hitler.
personally.. i'm still undecided if i want kids.. but i'm sure there will come a time where i would have to give this some serious thought and one of the first places i would think about is orphanages.. there's just too many people turning their backs on their responsibilities and there needs to be people willing to take them on because these responsibilities are very much real.. wait wha wha wha? just because females are the gender that bears a child.. we need to control ourselves? :confused: if you want to go down that direction it better be a 2 way road... because life is very much realistic and practical.. religion isn't like that.. the baby itself is very much physical and real.. that illegitimate baby could suffer a neglectful possibly traumatic childhood that will effect him/her for life if the parents aren't ready to take care of a child.. so why ruin someone's life like that when you have a choice or that you know it's not within your capabilities to take care of child... no.. you be realistic, early marriages will NOT stop people from getting abortions.. hahaha.. this is quotable material.. =D
quote or GTFO
Several occasions I have asked you to go back to a certain page or read a certain comment, several. In fact, more than one person other than myself addressed you and you did not respond.
I'm truely sorry my dear that you are a lazy sod and need to be quoted, because a few of us actually did quote you and you chose not to respond anyway from our original posts. In fact siuying took five quotes of your posts and you did not response.
Your response to our posts was "que" if you do not recall, you seem to have selective memory in addition to your deteriorating reading and logic skills...early on-set alzheimers...? :omg:
what do you want me to say? what do you think i should say?
IVT: I don't understand.
Randomuser: Read the last x pages.
And it just goes over and over again. :P
It just looks like you ran out of defences and decided to give up and be argumentative with me instead, to draw attention away from the fact you had not responded to any points I, or anyone else raised.
I won't sit around arguing with you about stupid little things, if you want to carry on from where we left off, feel free, otherwise stop trying to pick fights over non-related issues.
I think magnificent_bastard solved his I dont understand question as well:
May we get back to the original topic?