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When do you know sex has occured?

randomuser
edited January 2009 in General
Hypothetical, two people are feeling it and lets say someones mouth is on someones penis, then they decide for one reason or another to stop, and noone had gotten off.

Would you consider that sex?
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  • nicole
    edited January 2009
    I'm a believer that oral sex isn't technically sex, so I would say no.
  • lazyGUY
    edited January 2009
    i have a feeling this isnt hypothetical lol
  • Kevin M.Kevin M.
    edited January 2009
    I agree with Nicole. The penis must make some sort of entry into the vagina for it to be considered sex.

    In a related matter, I think oral sex is great!
  • Student0667
    edited January 2009
    The individual didn't even start, how can you call this sex. My interpretation of sex usually involves some form of insertion/ penetration and orgasm/ cum by one or both party. The thing I disagree with Nichole is that I view both oral and anal sex as a form of sex as well.

    Did the guy complain about blue balls afterward?
    Kevin M.;44679 said:
    I agree with Nicole. The penis must make some sort of entry into the vagina for it to be considered sex.
    So according to your interptation, you don't consider the lesbian style 69 (commonly featured in "The L Word") as a form of sex?
  • mrbubbles
    edited January 2009
    It's sex when I impregnate the female and she gets an abortion.

    /sarcasm

    Vagina and shithole penetration by a penis is consider sex. Any other projectile into any other hole, no.
    Student0667;44680 said:

    So according to your interptation, you don't consider the lesbian style 69 (commonly featured in "The L Word") as a form of sex?
    Boy, keep this heterosexual, no homosexuals.
  • IVTIVT
    edited January 2009
    lazyGUY;44676 said:
    i have a feeling this isnt hypothetical lol
    i agree.

    i wonder who she sucked off lol
  • nicole
    edited January 2009
    IVT;44687 said:
    i agree.

    i wonder who she sucked off lol
    Or didn't suck off...
  • IVTIVT
    edited January 2009
    was about to suck off
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    So you guys dont think oral sex where someone cums is sex? I think oral sex is sex, since the world sex is in it...if someone gets off.

    But say if you dont consider my hypothetical sex...would it change if there was oral to penis interaction that was like 5 minutes long, if noone came?
  • Kingsley
    edited January 2009
    Shouldn't this be in the Love/Relationships section?
  • Student0667
    edited January 2009
    randomuser;44692 said:
    But say if you dont consider my hypothetical sex...would it change if there was oral to penis interaction that was like 5 minutes long, if noone came?
    If there is sucking and insertion of genitalia involved, then it is totally sex. To keep this both heterosexual and homosexual, 69 would also be regarded as sex because both party sucking and licking each other's vulva and clitoris.

    Look, if you don't think the scenario you outlined above is sex, then some virgin male who has no idea what he is doing is having sex with a virgin female who TOO has no idea what she is doing isn't sex because nobody cum.
  • nicole
    edited January 2009
    If my hypothetical self had oral sex before vaginal sex, I hypothetically still considered myself to be a virgin.
  • mrbubbles
    edited January 2009
    nicole;44697 said:
    If my hypothetical self had oral sex before vaginal sex, I hypothetically still considered myself to be a virgin.
    Exactly, that's why oral sex isn't intercourse. Sex = intercourse. Oral sex = foreplay.
  • Student0667
    edited January 2009
    nicole;44697 said:
    If my hypothetical self had oral sex before vaginal sex, I hypothetically still considered myself to be a virgin.
    Wait, so this...
    nicole;30932 said:
    I was 17 and, looking back, I probably would have waited a little bit longer but I wouldn't have chosen anyone else (that I know of at this moment) to lose it to.
    I turned 18 a week later, but he was 27 at the time which sounds oh so wrong.
    was't vaginal?

    To me, the only way you can lose your virginity was when you have consented vaginal sex. Anal and oral doesn't count.
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    kingsleymore;44694 said:
    Shouldn't this be in the Love/Relationships section?
    What does sex have to do with being in love or in a relationship :omg:
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    nicole;44697 said:
    If my hypothetical self had oral sex before vaginal sex, I hypothetically still considered myself to be a virgin.
    To me, I think my definition of sex is the following:

    Oral sex without orgasm = Not Sex

    Oral sex with orgasm = Sex

    Penetration, regardless of whether anyone has an orgasm = Sex
  • nicole
    edited January 2009
    Student0667;44703 said:
    Wait, so this...



    was't vaginal?

    To me, the only way you can lose your virginity was when you have consented vaginal sex. Anal and oral doesn't count.

    I think you misinterpreted what I said. To put it plainly, I had oral sex before vaginal, and after I had oral sex I considered myself to still be a virgin. So that old post that you dug up (impressive) was vaginal.

    Kapeesh?

    So you consider oral and anal sex to be sex, but if that happened before vaginal and the person was a virgin, it wouldn't be sex?
  • imelting
    edited January 2009
    oral sex = oral sex
    sex = sex
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    imelting;44710 said:
    oral sex = oral sex
    sex = sex
    Well if you put it that way its real obvious...

    A lot of people just call oral sex, oral, though. I think in your mind too, you can still feel like a virgin after going down on someone, but having penetrative sex the way you feel just changes, theres some kind of mental difference.
  • imelting
    edited January 2009
    but then comes the girls who've done oral/anal even got finger action, but never had vag/penis and still callin themselves virgins, which is kinda wack dont cha think
  • Student0667
    edited January 2009
    nicole;44708 said:
    I think you misinterpreted what I said. To put it plainly, I had oral sex before vaginal, and after I had oral sex I considered myself to still be a virgin. So that old post that you dug up (impressive) was vaginal.
    That was one of your most memorable posts.
    So you consider oral and anal sex to be sex, but if that happened before vaginal and the person was a virgin, it wouldn't be sex?
    No, my position is that oral, anal, and vaginal sex are all forms of sex. However, you can only lose your virginity thought vaginal sex. You can have as much oral and anal sex that you want (ouch!), but you will always be a virgin. I have heard some stories where girls would rather give their boyfriend head just to preserve their virginity...
    imelting;44712 said:
    but then comes the girls who've done oral/anal even got finger action, but never had vag/penis and still callin themselves virgins, which is kinda wack dont cha think
    Nope, I don't think it is wacked. I just don't think that oral and anal sex is significant enough to signify the end of someone's virginity. Besides, I have yet to read a story where someone had anal before they had vaginal sex.
  • nicole
    edited January 2009
    Student0667;44713 said:
    That was one of your most memorable posts.


    ....I'm not so sure what to say.
    Student0667;44713 said:

    No, my position is that oral, anal, and vaginal sex are all forms of sex. However, you can only lose your virginity thought vaginal sex. You can have as much oral and anal sex that you want (ouch!), but you will always be a virgin. I have heard some stories where girls would rather give their boyfriend head and their ass just to preserve their virginity...
    I think it contradicts itself a little. If anything, I would differentiate between being sexual and having sex. But I understand your point of view.
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    Student0667;44713 said:

    Nope, I don't think it is wacked. I just don't think that oral and anal sex is significant enough to signify the end of someone's virginity. Besides, I have yet to read a story where someone had anal before they had vaginal sex.

    Wait wait wait, you don't consider ANAL, sex? Anal would be more serious in my mind than vaginal, theres so much more involved.
  • Student0667
    edited January 2009
    randomuser;44717 said:
    Wait wait wait, you don't consider ANAL, sex? Anal would be more serious in my mind than vaginal, theres so much more involved.
    My position is that...

    Anal Sex is sex. However, ONLY vaginal sex can take someone's virginity away.

    No wonder I am doing so terribly in my tutorial discussions...
  • siuying
    edited January 2009
    put it this way.. if getting oral sex or finger action is considered sex... you'll have a whole bunch of devirginized girls on the market.. and that can't be good news to guys or anyone for that matter right?
  • lazyGUY
    edited January 2009
    i think it is sex cuz ur still penetrating the mouth lol.... that doesnt sound very nice does it?
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    I think penetration requires some kind of resistance you're pushing against.
  • xxk1nky
    edited January 2009
    Nah, not considered sex to me.

    Penetration = sex.

    As in the penis being inserted into the vagina or the anus.
  • buflibufli
    edited January 2009
    i really don't see the point to this topic
    we have names like "anal" and "oral" for a reason...
    sex is dick in pussy as simple as that, if its anywhere else u use one of the other terms...
    what next? a titty fuck is sex? a hand job? common now.. they all have names for a reason lets not generalize :P
  • randomuser
    edited January 2009
    bufli;44734 said:
    i really don't see the point to this topic
    we have names like "anal" and "oral" for a reason...
    sex is dick in pussy as simple as that, if its anywhere else u use one of the other terms...
    what next? a titty fuck is sex? a hand job? common now.. they all have names for a reason lets not generalize :P
    How is there no point to my post? Anal sex, oral sex, vaginal sex, they're all forms of sex.

    The point of this topic is the metaphysical component of sex as an act, when do these acts or components of them constitute sex in ones mind, clearly by others posts the definitions you point out arent as clear cut as they appear.

    A titty fuck or a hand job are another category, and im not even sure what that category is called, do you?

    I don't know what you mean by saying not to generalize, because I'm trying to get specific attitudes about them.

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